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Jan. 22nd, 2006 05:00 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Sorry this took so long.
disclaimer: The fact that J. and M. are still alive proves that I don´t own anything.
AN: muchtvs was nice enough to beta, but afterwards I messed with everything again, so all mistakes are mine.
AN: Reviews are my drug of choice.
New Year's Eve- Pt. 3
They are driving back to the Cohens´ house. He tries to ignore the feeling of wet cotton sticking to his skin. When Luke had suggested to playing some soccer after lunch, he hadn't considered the fact that he had no change of clothes with him. And unfortunately it's to cold to just take the shirt off. Still, it had been felt good to play again, worth the discomfort of driving back all sweaty.
"I missed that."
He usually isn't the one to initiate a conversation but somehow, it's different with Luke. He's not exactly sure why.
"Soccer? Then why aren't you on the team anymore?"
"I got kicked out of school, remember?"
The list of things he would love to forget and yet feels a need to talk about with Luke seems to keep getting longer.
"They didn't let you join the team after you came back? That sucks!"
"No. I ah, I didn't ask to get on the team."
In retro perspective, trying to get on the team again might have been a good idea. Considering how relaxing the physical exhaustion he feels at the moment is, lots of sports could have made the past months a little easier. Or at least, he would have been able to fall asleep before three a.m.
Luke apparently doesn't want to simply drop the topic. "Why the hell not, man? You're good and I thought you liked it. That's what it looked like to me."
He doesn't meet Luke's questioning gaze, instead turns to look out of the window again. "With everything that's been going on, I didn't even think about it."
Seems like they are again steering back to what seems to be Luke's favourite topic these days. Marissa. Though to be fair, Luke probably didn't do it intentionally this time.
"Dude, that's just wrong. I mean I know she's a demanding girlfriend, but don't you want to have, I don't know, a life for yourself? I don't get it."
This whole topic would be easier to handle if he had a good explanation. Unfortunately, after their lunch, he is at a loss. Luke is right; he is giving up either way. And if there is one thing he dislikes more than people giving up on their friends and families, it's people giving up on themselves. Back in Chino, the obvious lack of care for him and Trey had hurt, but watching his mother self-destruct without so much as an attempt to somehow get better had been even worse.
Luke's comment that by staying with Marissa, he was giving up on himself had struck a cord, and although chasing after the ball had helped clearing his head at least for a little while, he still didn't really know what to do. Therefore, he doesn't really know what to say to Luke, who is watching him out of the corner of his eye while taking a turn to the left.
"Chino? You gonna say something?" Luke looks at him questioningly.
It'll probably take some more time for him to get used to the new, openly caring and concerned side of Luke. Not that it's a bad change, it's just so far from the Luke he is used to, even after they became friends, that he wonders what exactly happened in Portland to change him. Whatever it was, he knows some people who could use a similar change.
"Could we just drive?"
He needs to figure out for himself exactly what is holding him back before he can discuss it with Luke- or anyone else. The realisation that he is having relationship- talks with Luke almost makes him laugh out loud. It is just weird.
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The silence lasts for about five minutes, then he surprises himself by breaking it.
"I've never broken up with someone."
He's never had to do that; they always broke up with him first. Marissa, Theresa, Lindsay- it's one of the few things they all have in common.
"Well, maybe it's time that you learn how to do it." Luke is nice enough not to comment on the fact that all his girlfriends dumped him. Although he seems to be trying without a lot of success to hold back a grin, so he probably realises the teasing-potential.
"I'm not sure if …" He's not sure about anything. Not sure if he shouldn't try to salvage what is left of his relationship with Marissa, not sure if he is able to knowingly hurt some that he (still, despite everything) cares about, not sure if she will be stable enough to handle it or if it is going to make her fall apart. She might not spend a lot of time with him, but she trusts that he'll be there for her. He knows what it is like to loose your feeling of security. But he also isn't sure how much more he can take, isn't sure if he'll be able to accept that he is constantly reduced to an afterthought by her. He isn't sure if he wants to.
"The whole situation just sucks. If I really broke up with her, everything would change."
"That's the point, isn't it? Things would change; you wouldn't have to be her backup in her "save Johnny" missions anymore. You could find yourself a girlfriend who doesn't treat you like crap."
His voice barely has an infliction, just calm reasoning. Portland was definitely good for Luke.
"It's not just about me. Or even me and Marissa. She's Summer's best friend, it's always Seth, Summer, Marissa and me."
Luke interrupts him. "And now Johnny? I mean if he isn't there in person, then he's all you're talking about, right?"
He maybe shouldn't have told Luke that, then he wouldn't have so much ammunition now.
"If I broke up with her, the four of us wouldn't be able to all hang out with each other any more. Seth would flip; you should have seen what he was like last year when he wanted everything to go back to the way it was. It´s like he's allergic to change. Not to mention that Summer might kill me."
"Dude, first you don't want to end it because you think it would mean giving up, now you're using Seth and Summer as an excuse? I mean, Cohen is your best friend. He would understand, at least he should. And didn't you say Summer was worried about Marissa always hanging out with Johnny? She'd probably understand, too. Plus, not to ruin your delusions or anything like that, but if Seth and Summer take of to the other side of the continent after graduation, it won't be the four of you anymore, no matter if you guys broke up or not, right?"
"And Marissa and me both applied to Berkeley. You got any idea what she would do if we both got accepted and then I broke up with her?" It's not a scenario that he wants to imagine.
"Berkeley? And you think you'll both get in?"
"I know I'm not the ideal candidate, with my record and everything, but we met with this friend of Sandy…"
"Actually, I was talking about Marissa. I mean, she used to be pretty good at school, but she kind of slacked last year, didn't she? And now she got kicked out of school. No matter if that was fair, Berkeley might not like it."
He had never thought about that. While he was less than confident about his own chances due to his record and had applied mainly because of Sandy, he never questioned Marissa's acceptance. She was from Newport, she went to private school (until this semester), she would get accepted. Funny, how the way the Newpsies took some things for granted had rubbed of on him. He still didn't think that way about himself, but he had accepted that Newpsies and Newpsie-kids got what they wanted.
"We never talked about where else we would go. I mean, I applied to other colleges, but I don't know if she did."
"You didn't ask?" Luke's tone makes it quite obvious that this is supposed to be a rhetorical question, but he feels the need to answer and explain anyway.
"It was hard enough to talk her into applying to college at all, I didn't want to bring it up again." No need starting another fight.
"Seems like there is an awful lot of stuff that you guys don't talk about."
Luke looks like he is keeping himself from saying something else. Considering there is apparently nothing he and Luke don't talk about, he suspects the other boy is trying to go for a dramatic break, to make him think about it or something like that. It works.
They drive in silence for a few minutes. This time, Luke is the one to break it.
"So, since the "protect the friendship" excuse doesn't work, do you have any other bogus reasons not to break it of? Because obviously, the reason isn't that you are so incredibly happy with Marissa."
"Jul… Mrs. Cooper is Marissa's mom, and she is Kirsten's best friend."
"Still? After that shit she tried to pull on you?" Luke seems genuinely shocked. He's the first.
"You saw her at the party last night, what did you think why she was there? And they were friends long before I came to Newport."
He wishes he could give Luke a better reason, but so far he hasn't been able to come up with anything. He'd never ask the Cohens to give up on their friends for him, but he still would have liked to see some kind of reaction from his foster mother. Even if it was just to show him she cared. Still, whom the Cohens decided to be friends with wasn't any of his business, even if that woman didn't deserve them. Neither did he, and they stuck with him anyway.
Luke, who doesn't seem to want him to get lost in thought again, forces his mind back to their conversation. "Doesn't matter. They were friends when you two broke up for the first time, too. You're still making up excuses. What the hell are you scared off? This is about the whole "needing things to work out" - thing again, isn't it?"
Mainly. He isn't making up excuses, the realization that his decisions affect everyone around him is something he has been trying to get a handle on since he came to Newport, a result of the fact that this place is a bubble and everyone is either friends or related (or both). Always being a little worried about the consequences his actions and decisions might have on everyone followed that assessment pretty much automatically, but Luke is right. He still isn't willing to give up, not so much on Marissa as on what she represents: his new life, in a new city, with new friends and, for the first time, a girlfriend. It's what she has been since he first met her in front of the Cohens´s house, when she seemed flawless, as unattainable as the life his lawyer was showing him. He should have known better than to believe in the front she put up, and the disillusion had followed pretty quickly, the moment he found her lying on the ground, unconscious with to much alcohol. Still, being with Marissa had somehow become a synonym for making it in Newport, and the need to prove to himself that he could make it had been overwhelming. It still is, sometimes. He gave up his life here once and he's not sure he can do it again. If he wants to end things with Marissa, he will have to find a way to separate her from Newport in his mind.
Luke apparently thinks he has been staring out of the window long enough; he coughs in way that is so obviously fake, he has to fight back a grin. Then he remembers that Luke isn't Marissa, and he stops trying.
"I don't wanna burst your bubble, man, but honestly, no matter what "the Valley" is trying to make us all believe, I'm pretty sure that most people are not meant to be with their first boyfriend or girlfriend. As far as I can see, breaking up is more the rule than the exception. So, you know, just because it doesn't work with Marissa, doesn't mean it won't work with someone else."
Only because it doesn't work out with Marissa, doesn't mean it won't work out in Newport.
"Luke, man, you watch "The Valley"?"
There really isn't anything else he can say. Luke is right, and they both know it.
"Dude, we had a fun day. Don't ruin it by forcing me to hurt you."
He doesn't say anything, just smirks as the other boy fixes his eyes on the road again.
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He steps under the stream of hot water, enjoying the way it soothes his tense muscles and washes off the cold sweat. The Cohens still aren't at home, so luckily no one reamed him out about running around in wet clothes on the first of January. Tomorrow, when they go to play again, he will definitely have to remember bringing a change of clothes.
Tonight, he'll have to call Marissa, ask her to meet for a talk. He'll probably have to talk her out of whatever activity she has already planned with Johnny. That won't make the conversation any easier.
If he explains that he's breaking up with her because of Luke, she might misunderstand it.
The End
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Date: 2006-01-22 04:34 pm (UTC)He wishes he could give Luke a better reason, but so far he hasn't been able to come up with anything. He'd never ask the Cohens to give up on their friends for him, but he still would have liked to see some kind of reaction from his foster mother.
Loved Luke's reaction to Kirsten's continuing friendship with Julie... I really wish they'd adress that on the show.
Great fic!! :)
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Date: 2006-01-22 04:39 pm (UTC)Ryan really needs someone who makes him talk without forcing him to be someone he´s not.
I really wish they'd adress that on the show.- I think my need to vent about all the ways the show keeps ignore the issues it brought up is one of the main reasons I started writing.
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Date: 2006-01-22 06:30 pm (UTC)I love this Luke, too, mainly cause he is telling Ryan everything I want to tell him. And we all know there have to better girls for him, since it couldn´t possibly be worse.
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Date: 2006-01-22 07:15 pm (UTC)~ That Luke is your mouthpiece to tell Ryan what's what
~ That Ryan listens to him
~ That you have Luke's 'voice' down perfectly---there's not alot of Luke in ficdom
~ That this is all so believeable
~ That so many of the things you have addressed here are SO badly needed on the show
~ That Luke is funny...I loved Luke (not as much as Ryan, but still) I miss Luke
~ That Marissa must die---oh, I'm sorry---you didn't really say that in your fic, did you? I must stop listening to the voices in my head!
Nice job on your first completed fic!!
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Date: 2006-01-22 07:26 pm (UTC)And hey, I broke them up without writing even one scene with her.
I miss Luke, too, and I think Ryan desperately needs someone who is really on his side to tell him that he deserves better.
Glad you liked it and that you thought Luke was in-character, I wasn´t so sure.
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Date: 2006-01-22 07:18 pm (UTC)So true.
Ryan even said to Marissa in the last episode, that she has a great boyfriend.
True Ryan, you are a great boyfriend. Too bad, that you have the worst girlfriend ever. You deserve better man, so get finally rid of the Drama Queen for good.
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Date: 2006-01-22 07:28 pm (UTC)I always wonder why the hell the writers seem to think they are portraying some kind of great love when in reality, they are giving an example of how skrewed up and unhealthy relationships can be.
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Date: 2006-01-22 09:08 pm (UTC)If only the writers allowed some input from fanfic writers every now and then. Brandy, muchtvs and others could make the show so much better. Sometimes, I really think we all know the characters better than those who created them.
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Date: 2006-01-22 11:08 pm (UTC)There's also some delicious humor slipped into this story. The ending alone is priceless: If he explains that he's breaking up with her because of Luke, she might misunderstand it. Hee!
By the way, this was a natural place to end this story, since it was all about Ryan coming to the realization that he needed to break up with Marissa. But if you felt inspired, I'd love a sequel where he actually does it.
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Date: 2006-01-23 07:18 am (UTC)I´m not good at writing humor, so the fact that I made you laugh is really great. (A reviewer at ffnet honestly asked my if that line was supposed to be sarcastic, so I was a little unsure about it. But then, that same reviewer also wrote that Luke/Ryan would be "yuck" and while I´m not a slash writer, this kind of apparent intolerance kind of makes me not value that persons opinion as much.)
I don´t know about a sequel. I liked being able to break them up without having to write even one scene with her. I´m afraid my dislike for her would make me write her out of character.
Thanks for taking the time to comment, I´m happy you liked it.
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Date: 2006-01-23 04:47 pm (UTC)Oh, geez - my mind went to a really WRONG place with that line!
Hee.
Yip, Ryan needs to dump the girl.
On her skinny butt.
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Date: 2006-01-23 04:52 pm (UTC)Btw, I friended you, hope that´s ok?
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Date: 2006-01-23 05:08 pm (UTC)Yip - I liked it.
If you're still looking for a beta, I can help. I'm not the best (and I can't spell worth a damn but..)
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Date: 2006-01-23 05:18 pm (UTC)I plan on STAYING out of the hospital, thank you very much.
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Date: 2006-01-24 11:24 pm (UTC)I don´t think I am going to write a sequel, I kind of liked ending things with Maarissa without actually having to write her. I´ll try to finish "dealing" before starting another wip.
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Date: 2006-01-25 10:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-01-24 04:08 am (UTC)It's ironic that the person who posed such a threat to Ryan initially is the one who has returned his friendship. As unique as the Seth/Ryan brotherhood of sorts is, there is something very comfortable, appealing and necessary about Ryan's and Luke's relationship. Their dynamic is much more typical and less intense than what exists between Ryan and Seth, but that shouldn't diminish its importance. Ryan needs friends with whom he shares common interests and with whom he can reveal other facets of his personality. He needs balance that he lacks without someone like Luke. For all of his flaws, Luke genuinely cares about Ryan and has supported him even when he stood alone. He's not dependent on Ryan to the extent that the others are and doesn't place unrealistic expectations on him. Their friendship is much simpler. You capture the essence of that and convey it perfectly.
The person that once divided them has inadvertently brought them together. Because of their common experience, Luke can understand Ryan's, at least on some level, better than anyone else. He may not fully appreciate how Ryan's past is in intricately involved; he can't be expected to begin to grasp that, but he empathize. The very fact that he takes the time to simply talk to Ryan is significant since guardians and friends seem to be conspicuously absent or unconcerned. Luke also understands Julie like few others. Having grown up in Newport, he has quite a different perspective and foundation than Ryan. While an insecure and de-valued Ryan may be hurt by Kirsten's and Sandy's relationship with Julie, he isn't shocked, incredulous and angry like Luke.
Luke may no longer live in Newport and may have left following family scandal, but just like Marissa, as Ryan believes, he has a sense of entitlement and belongs in a way that Ryan never will. Luke is the perfect vehicle to provide a different lens for Ryan. Luke can put Ryan first and offer opinions and insights that Ryan is missing. Ryan can't always see beyond the labels that he has unjustly been branded with and he doesn't recognize his accomplishments or appreciate their significance. He's so focused on everyone else that he never takes a look at himself.
Thanks for providing a forum for Ryan to be seen and heard- if only by one person. That's one more than he's had and sometimes it's more than enough. Thanks for rekindling memories of a friendship that has left a void in both Ryan's life and in the show. Thanks for a wonderful glimpse into what Ryan's thinking and feeling. The introspection, dialogue and body language all complement one another very effectively. You know how to equally weigh the words and the silences and that's the secret to writing Ryan well. I hope you'll continue this or have something similar planned!
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Date: 2006-01-24 07:34 am (UTC)I miss Luke and the easy friendship he had with Ryan. I agree with you that the Seth/Ryan friendship is everything but normal, and I think Ryan needs some normal friends to find some sort of balance, especialyy because with Seth, the lines between friendship and family are blurred.
I´m glad you think that the dialogue/description was balanced, as I usually tend to write to much description and not enough dialogue.
I´m not sure if I am going to write a sequel, I kind of liked making him breake up with Marissa without having to write a single scene with her in it;)I´ll try to finish "Dealing" before I start a new multi-chaptered fic.
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Date: 2006-01-24 07:46 am (UTC)ITA that Ryan's and Seth's friendship is both unique, but problematic, particularly for Ryan because of his extreme sense of loyalty and sense of indebtedness and gratitude to the Cohens. The lines do blur and there is always an underlying question of obligation there. I always get the impression that Ryan still feels he isn't allowed to make his own choices and that comes to choosing friends too. If Luke hadn't tolerated Seth and put their past behind them, Ryan never would have had more than the most casual friendship with him. He would have respected Seth's wishes and feelings. With Luke, we get to see a side of Ryan that isn't visible with anyone else very often. I miss that side of him, just like I miss the side of him we saw with Lindsay before the writers assassinated her character.
Don't doubt your mix of introspection and dialogue. You nailed it. You captured all of Ryan's naunces and played the pauses just right.
I don't know that I'd want to read a breaking up story, to be honest, or any story with her featured prominently. I am so frustrated with having to see her FAR too much on screen that I'd rather not read anything about her. There are other family aspects of this you could continue.
I'm glad you're working on "Dealing" since I've missed it and we need issues address in fic if not in fact.
Thanks!
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Date: 2006-01-24 07:58 am (UTC)I think Luke was one of the few people that Ryan didn´t feel as much responsibility for. Yes, he tried to help him when Luke asked for it, but to me that seemed to stem from genuine care, not a sense of obligation. Not that he doesn´t care about the others, but there is always a sense of duty to it.
It is sad how many aspects of Ryan´s character the writers are ignoring, reducing him to an exaggerated white knight when that is only one aspect of his character. I hate it when the plot (especially such a bad, Marissa-centered plot) controles the characters and not the other way round. They are wasting so much potential.
"Dealin" is next on my list of things to do, but since I also have to study for finals, it could be a while. The family-aspects you were talking about are the main focus of that fic, which is why I concentrated on the Marissa-issue in this one.
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Date: 2006-01-24 07:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-01-24 08:06 am (UTC)As for TPTB, don't get me started. I'll run out of room. They're completely neglecting one of the most compelling characters on TV, not just the show. It's hard to settle for the crumbs they toss out when you know what's being left untapped and when Ben McK could so deliver.
Enough with the "M!" GRRRRRR!
Good luck with exams. Ouch!
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Date: 2006-01-27 12:18 am (UTC)If you ever feel like writing an epilogue to this story, it would be great to have Luke come for another visit and find Ryan doing well and in a good, happy relationship with a girl who is not Marissa. At least, that's what I'm going to imagine will happen!